We are a small flag company located in Georgia – the heart of Dixie. We have received some pressure and less than polite “requests” to stop selling the Confederate battle flag.
As ardent supporters of the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution we don’t appreciate it much when people want to ban a flag – or harass us about selling it to our fellow Americans.
To these bullies I say you can KISS MY GRITS!
No one can honestly say that everything done in that flags name was honorable and decent, and no one wants to return to that more backwards time in our history. However, it does have historical an cultural significance that cannot be denied. For some it is a flag of oppression, however for many it is a flag that symbolizes a struggle for freedom over tyranny. The kind of tyranny that lets mob rule take away rights from people who are not politically correct or don’t think like they do.
Flags represent ideas, past and present. The way some people attack ideas they don’t like is to attack the symbols of that idea – such as its flags. Trying to re-write history by redefining words and symbols is the trick of a despotic and rotten mind. It has never been an effective form of argument. Every time someone proposes banning a flag, sales of that flag go through the roof. We have shipped more Confederate flags in the last few days than in all of this last year combined.
Its been said that the first amendment that protects free speech is really there to protect unpopular speech, as popular speech needs no protection. At Ultimate Flags LLC we don’t just pay liberty lip service. we live it.
One of my ancestors is Paul Revere (you maybe heard about some of his noise making some time back). With that heritage and in that tradition I put this little flag company here to make sure any American can get a hold of even ‘unpopular’ flags – especially flags that some people want to take away.
This is not because we are profit driven, we do very well without selling these flags. We do this because we know that when any majority can suppress any minority and its ideas, that neither side is free.
So, we do not participate in boycotts or bans of flags.
If the day comes that YOUR flag and ideas are ever under attack, you’ll know you can find the flag that has meaning for you boldly available here.
(…and don’t even get me started on how someone is trying to use the deaths of several people to further their own political goals. Flags and guns don’t kill people, psychopaths on mild altering drugs kill people).
Manager Ultimate Flags LLC
Below is a link to our “Rebel Collection”
https://www.uspatriotflags.com/collections/rebel-flags
Here is a link to the best selling and best looking cotton Confederate Battle Flag:
John Nesbit & employees of your company;
Thank you so much for standing up for our 1st Amendment rights and against tyranny.So glad to see that y’all aren’t following the sheeple during this very sad and chaotic time. A flag is an inanimate object and not responsible for the actions of a crazy human being/human beings.
Keep up the good work and many blessing to all of you and your loved ones!
God Bless America!!
A proud supporter for Freedom!
You think they would make some ISIS flags for all Muslims citizens to fly proudly?
Wayne, you have more in common with ISIS than a Confederate flag!!! You just don’t realize it.
thank you ultimateflgs.com for standing up for whats right, our rights! dixie born & dixie raised, I’ll always be proud of my heritage, no one can take that away!
Thanks for your courage and for not knuckling under. I’m NOT bowing under pressure either. Just ordered the 8′ x 12′ Confederate flag from your website. I have no idea where I’ll be able to hang it in my Cleveland, Ohio home, but it’s going to be hung proudly. I’m Southern bred, but sadly living up north amongst Yankees. My ancestors fought for the South and died on Kennesaw Mountain. I cannot wait to receive my beautiful flag. It means a great deal to me. Again, THANK you.
John Nesbit, THANK YOU SIR! Our Civil Rights in the South have been trampled on and are always trying to be stripped by that race that claim it’s in their Civil Rights, yet in America we are supposed to all have EQUALITY, yet one race seems to think that does not apply to those of us with Southern Bred and Born roots, history and heritage!
It’s not all in that race though, I know a lot of blacks, many I am friends with, born in the South that fly the Confederate flag very proudly too.
So I am so happy you have not succumbed to this madness[stupidity actually} of not selling the Rebel or Confederate Flags, I look forward to purchasing one, possibly more in the near future to be proudly displayed from my home!
Related to Paul Revere, that’s wonderful! Loved that story in History, but for what it’s worth, my wife is 6th generation Floridian and she is related to the Great General Robert E. Lee of the Confederate Army on her mothers side. I was showing her some historical photo’s I found of him and his wife online and the family resemblance is right there, it was uncanny, but his wife looks very much like my late mother in law! And we got along very well, heard a lot of great stories about General Lee from her when she was alive.
Sadly my wife lost some manuscripts that was handed down to her from past family member as those things go, written by Robert E. Lee himself, lost when a storage unit we rented flooded and they were destroyed, didn’t know they were in there{they were in what was supposed to be a sealed, weatherproof tote!} or I’d have had them put in a safe deposit box. Sadly, even though we had insurance on things,
they refused to pay us for any and all things damaged that can never be replaced or repaired such as that.
And I’m going to probably be making some people unhappy come this 4th of July 2015, I’ve been collecting Confederate War songs from various sources and that’s just what I intend to be blaring on my outdoor speakers from 7am ’til midnight on 7/4/2015! And whomever doesn’t like it, well they can just KISS MY SOUTHERN “CONFEDERATE” A$$! LOL
Just wish I had the Confederate Flag to go along with the music! But that’ll have to wait until next month when I’m hoping to order one!
We either lost or had ours stolen when we moved to our new home. So hoping to get a replacement in the near future.
Thanks again for keeping the Confederacy, it’s rich history and heritage of the South alive and well at ultimateflgs.com!
BTW: My name on your site is Orville Fugitte, the posted name on this comment is what I use on FB.
thank you for sharing this interesting information. I am sorry for your loss from the flood. I know what that is like.
History is one thing. Being proud to be a bigot……is just foolish.
you’re an opinionated asshole aren’t you?
Perhaps. I can be an “opinionated” asshole when I want to be. You’re merely an “uninformed” asshole at all times.
Sadly, there appears to be no hope for you on the horizon either.
You can be what you want to be but we are not allowed to be who we want to be. You are the only opinion that matters and nothing anyone who doesn’t agree with you has value. You’re the bigot here. An uninformed one at that.thers no way you have a degree of any kind in history. You’re a liar. Nobody goes thru college and ends up this stupid and unable to think for themselves. You just keep saying the same shit and everyone else has run circles around you with facts. Liberalism truly is a disease. You need help. You’ve been schooled and you’re still spouting the same shit.what a pathetic excuse for a human being.
Yes, he is. He’s also arrogant, self righteous, thinks his way is the only way. He is intolerant of anyone who doesn’t believe the same things he does. I’d say he’s the bigot. We accept people for who they are. I’m guessing you’re one of those pussies who voted for Obama too. You think just like him.
Thank you for selling the Confederate flag. I don’t understand why people want to trample on American History. Even if they don’t agree with it. The Civil War was a very important war in our nation’s history. The men who fought in the Civil War from the South should be honored. After all, most were fighting because they felt a threat to their homeland. Not for slavery. As one Confederate soldier said to a Union soldier when asked why he was fighting, he said plainly, “Because your down here.” So I appreciate the fact that you have not wavered in keeping the flag on your website. It is important for people to realize just because you do not agree with something, it doesn’t give you the right to eradicate it. I am a proud Southerner and I have no hate in my heart or any ill will toward anyone. It’s time to study history and be proud of the heritage – not eliminate it from society.
If your heritage includes hate, slavery, treason, tyranny, etc. the Confederate battle flag is right for you.
You better read your history Wayne, Those examples you gave, fits better with the American flag. Of course, I’m sure your the type of person that would want that taken down too. Did you know the first slave owner was black? Probably not, since only bits and pieces of history the media wants you to hear, is reported. Just because some idiot hate group decides to adopt an object for their beliefs, doesn’t mean that’s what that object was intended to be associated with.
Well, Eugene, I have a BA degree in history, so it is suffice to say I’ve read about it at some point and time. Flying that flag only indicates to me is you haven’t gotten over possibly the most major event is this nation’s history.
I do agree that the America flag also symbolizes some the dark history of the United States. In my estimation, the white race was the force behind most of that dark history.
Meanwhile back in reality, Africans and Egyptians invented the Human Slave Trade.
Much of what they teach in college history today is nothing but cultural Marxism…anti-American, anti-Western culture, anti-religion, and so on.
EXACTLY.
I am sure you would rather have revisionist Lost Cause BS taught, along with Christian Dominionism and American exceptionalism.
Wayne the south lost the civil war. Northern scholars and the winners of the war were writing the History books. So of course the north was made to be the Hero’s. If you truly have a BA in History , it would do you some good to do some of your own research. Read the memoirs and journals of the men who fought for the south. See if they were fighting and dying so the rich men could keep their slaves.
If Germany had won the war could you imagine what the history books would have said about the jews.
if you are are ashamed of the white race then I have some tar for you…stay the fuck up there yankee bull…..We fly what we want down here…we say and do like we like also….you are the first people to force federal rules on the south….while at the same time supporting sactuary cities for criminals in this country illeagaly ….you can’t have it both ways…I say we need sactuary cities for white Christians…..OHHHH but that would be wrong huh?….fucking libtards are all hypocrites
Listen, and listen good, Wonder Bread. I was born in Texas, and I have lived in Texas all my life. I’ve seen it from both sides. Personally, I don’t give a shit what you think, or what you do. You’re too stupid to know right from wrong anyway.
Remember it’s was a battle flag. A symbol of a war that your inbred heritage LOST! Now it’s a symbol what many people use to tell all the world that they’re a racist bigot.
“You are the first people to force federal rules on the south” Your words, not mine. Since at the time the South was part of the Union, how the hell are laws that were passed and enacted being forced on you? The system has been the same for almost 250 years. You teatards are all the same, ignorant to the bone.
FYI ~ It’s a flag, not some do rag to cover up your greasy ass hair!
Wayne, you really missed the entire section on the cause and affect of the Civil War didn’t ya? The Civil War was most certainly the result of the northern states and the federal government enforcing laws and taxes on the south. Slavery was okay with the entire union, and yes, even the north, until it was used to garner support for the war effort. The Emcipation Proclomation was not even delivered until going on two years into the war, so the war was not about slavery, as most people think it was. Lincoln has even written that if he had a way to win the war without freeing the slaves, he would have done that. So, he is not the almighty saviour of the black race that many think that he is.
As far as the south being considered inbreds, you do know that the state of Texas succeeded from the Union in 1861, right, and was therefore part of the Confederacy? So, you Texans are not only south, but also west of most of the northern states that were part of the Union. Does that make you, horse fucking, inbreds?
SECEDED, Crispy. Misspelling words doesn’t help our cause any.
The spellcheck on my tablet picked succeeded, it’s such a pain in the neck sometimes. I have a broken hand right now, so I let it check the post over, so much for letting spellcheck do my work. lol
NP- I just hear people all the time verbally saying “succeed” when they mean “secede”, when I saw it in writing, I thought I’d best say something.
Nope. The areas of the states of Georgia, Tennessee and Alabama that were mountainous and had few slaves, voted against secession. Even though they were subject to the same taxes and federal laws, 46% of Georgians did not support the slavocracy. These areas subsequently sent many men into the Union armies, including some of my ancestors. Slavery was still Constitutional until the 13th Amendment was passed, until then Lincoln’s hands were tied to issue a general emancipation. Great Britain, Mexico, and 18 of the northern states had outlawed slavery, and the refusal of the northern folks [who were asserting state’s rights!] to extradite escaped slaves led to secession to preserve the monied interests in the South. It was all about the slaves, and the racism that underlaid the concept of slavery being an OK thing.
I must disagree with you Mr. Fiddler. Yes there were some Southerners who fought for the North. (Believe it or not there were a few Northerners who fought for the South). But the reasons for the war are more varied than you think. Slavery was not the only issue. And you have to go back to the late 1840’s to see that the North and South were having problems. For one thing the North was applying taxes on imported goods the South had coming in. And there were taxes put on Southern products going out that many Northerners did not have to pay on their products. Also Southern banks paid high interest on loans made with banks in the North. After the “panic of 1857” Southern financiers found themselves burdened with high payments just to save Northern banks that had suffered financial losses. Also, they disagreed over how much power states had. And how much the federal gov’t should have. To top that off you had the Industrial North and the Agricultural South. The people were different. The ways of life were different. So to say it was only about slavery is just not true.
Liberalism is a sick mental disorder. Your statement, “It’s a flag, not some do rag to cover up your greasy ass hair” sounds pretty racist to me. Is that what you think about africians hair? Did not know people who are ‘light on their feet’ were born in Texas. Bet you never missed an episode of Pee Wee Herman.
Weak minds swear when they cannot launch a logical argument. Great job! You must be real smart?
Boy, when you brag on your education, be sure you’re the best-educated in the house! I’ll see your BS degree (and we all know what BS stands for), and raise it with TWO Master’s degrees in the behavioral sciences, with emphasis on ethics, and cultural and historical impact on the above. I ran a time-line of the FACTS surrounding the Emancipation Proclamation (which, as you know IF you actually studied history), only freed the slaves in states that were in open rebellion against the Federal government. In other words, Missouri, Kentucky, and occupied Tennessee slaves were not freed until the 13th Amendment in Dec. 1866, a year and a half AFTER Lee’s surrender. Also, two Union states, Maryland and Delaware, were slave states and were exempted from the Proclamation, too. IF you ever read the Lincoln-Douglas debates or IF you ever read Lincoln’s first inaugural address, you’d know that Lincoln preferred the union stay together, rather than freeing slaves. In fact, he said that, if it would keep the Union together, he would allow all slave states to remain slave states.
At the same time, I find myself wondering if you can account for why so many free blacks in the South VOLUNTEERED to serve in the Confederate Army and Navy. Even a Union general with the Sanitary Commission wrote of seeing hundreds of black Confederate troops were marching in the came companies with their white counterparts, wearing the same uniforms. This is in stark contrast to the Union army, which had to use SEGREGATED units.
I suggest you look up H.K. Edgerton and Byron Thomas. Edgerton is a former president of the NAACP in North Carolina. He was encouraged to trace his “roots”, and did so. When he reported that one of his ancestors was a free black who joined a Confederate artillery unit, he was stripped from office, kicked out of the NAACP, and has faced nothing but insult and threats from these “tolerant” liberal “African-Americans” (he refuses to allow anyone to call him that- he says he’s “an American and a Confederate”). Byron Thomas is a student at the University of South Carolina, and the descendant of free blacks who served in the Confederate Army. When he wanted to put a Confederate battle flag up in his dorm room, he was faced with expulsion. However, he lawyered up and filed a First Amendment violation case against the university (Title 42, United States Code, Section 1983) for violation of his civil rights. The university IMMEDIATELY backed down, although they ruled that blacks can display the flag, but not whites (I’m just waiting for THAT discrimination suit to hit the media!).
I can go on and on about why the so-called “Civil War” (which was actually a secessionist war, because the definition of “civil war” is a war in which two or more factions are fighting for control of the same nation, more like what you’re seeing in Syria), was not “all about slavery”, but slavery actually played a small role until 1863, when Lincoln decided to use freed slaves as cannon fodder. It seemed that, at the same time, there were riots in New York City over conscription (that means a draft, Wayne, just so your “educated” mind can grasp it, since you were never around during the last draft in history, and your parents likely weren’t, either).
Oh, and if you had ever served in the military, you’d know some of this history, too, since it’s taught in boot camp of the Army, Navy, and Marines, as well as the Posse Comitatus Act, which arose out of the horrors visited on southern states by the Union during the so-called “reconstruction”. I even learned this in the Air Force, although there was no Air Force during that period in history. Then again, with all that this Community-Agitator…I mean Organizer-in-Chief, has inflicted on the Department of Defense (smallest military since before WWII), I doubt today’s troops know anything coming out of boot camp, except how to whine. They have to go into the combat zones to grow up, which is unfortunate.
I also question the value of your education, since you do like all good little neo-Marxists and respond to others’ debate points with almost illiterate insults. Personally, I’d love to take you on in a factual debate on TV! You’d do more harm to the liberal cause than a THOUSAND Ronald Reagans!
You are one ignorant SOB! Blacks troops never volunteered to fight for the South. The Confederacy only mustered the “courage” to use black troops less that a month before the war ended. The main Rebel armies facing long odds against must larger Union armies,the Confederacy, in a desperate measure reluctantly approved the use of black troops.They knew their days on the battlefield were numbered.
They didn’t want to arm blacks, and they sure didn’t want them becoming free citizens. Didn’t matter, they were going to lose them away with the end of the war just few days away.
You’re made several outrageous claims only confirming to me the fact that you are a brainwashed Teatard.
You want to me on TV debate, you can bring it on any time. Looks like you need to on the Biggest Loser. Looks as if you need to drop about 100 lbs, not to mention the fact you are a big loser. That’s what losers do. Change the truth to make it seem that they’re educated.
You absolutely do not know your history. At the outset of the war MANY free blacks formed militias and volunteered to fight for the South. Go crawl back under your rock you statist Nazi.
How many? The Louisiana blacks formed units, and then promptly joined the Union armies when they showed up in Louisiana. When the ratio of blacks in both armies was 100-1 in favor of the Union, you can see which way the wind was blowing. The flag you defend was THE symbol for slavery and segregation for 150 years, and still is.
That flag is a battle flag. It never flew over the Confederacy. You intolerant assholes are disgusting.
The battle flag flew over the army defending the slavocrat Confederacy. That is bad enough.
The American flag flew over a slave nation. If you read real history you would know that only 5% of the people owned slaves. Gee, I wonder why the other 95% of the southerners fight if they didn’t own slaves. Because it wasn’t all about slavery. But I don’t expect your feeble one track mind to catch on to this. The hands of the northerers were just as bloody as the South on the matter of slavery. Slavery still exists today. Why do you not put your time and energy into bringing that to an end. Why is the ISIS flag ok while ISIS assassinates gays? The flag means different things to different people and I have the right to fly any flag I damn well please. You liberals are the most intolerant bunch of hypocrites I’ve ever known. You want to force the rest of us to do something. You wouldn’t like it very much if you were forced by the gov to do something, but your feelings and ideologies are the only thing that matters to you. You have no empathy. You are selfish and totally self absorbed. Thank God there are less of you than conservatives. i have a right in this country to fly any damn flag I please but you want to take my rights away. When will you be giving up your rights to free speech. What will your world look like when you can no longer troll conservative sites in order to make asinine comments? Pretty grim I think.
The American flag did fly over a nation that allowed slavery. The slave trade was banned in the early 1800’s and 18 of the 33 states had abolished slavery starting in 1804. The USA was on its way to eliminating slavery just like the rest of the civilized world, and the South had to secede to avoid being outvoted in the Congress. Slaves made up the bulk of property values in the South, more than the land and railroads added together. The bankers were financing the plantations on borrowed money, and the whole economy was shackled to slavery. The common folks did not want to compete with 5 million freed slaves,and the common soldier enlisted and fought to keep the blacks from being politically equal.
Teaching With Documents:
The Fight for Equal Rights: Black Soldiers in the Civil War
Background
“Once let the black man get upon his person the brass letter, U.S., let him get an eagle on his button, and a musket on his shoulder and bullets in his pocket, there is no power on earth that can deny that he has earned the right to citizenship.”
Frederick Douglass
The issues of emancipation and military service were intertwined from the onset of the Civil War. News from Fort Sumter set off a rush by free black men to enlist in U.S. military units. They were turned away, however, because a Federal law dating from 1792 barred Negroes from bearing arms for the U.S. army (although they had served in the American Revolution and in the War of 1812). In Boston disappointed would-be volunteers met and passed a resolution requesting that the Government modify its laws to permit their enlistment.
The Lincoln administration wrestled with the idea of authorizing the recruitment of black troops, concerned that such a move would prompt the border states to secede. When Gen. John C. Frémont (photo citation: 111-B-3756) in Missouri and Gen. David Hunter (photo citation: 111-B-3580) in South Carolina issued proclamations that emancipated slaves in their military regions and permitted them to enlist, their superiors sternly revoked their orders. By mid-1862, however, the escalating number of former slaves (contrabands), the declining number of white volunteers, and the increasingly pressing personnel needs of the Union Army pushed the Government into reconsidering the ban.
As a result, on July 17, 1862, Congress passed the Second Confiscation and Militia Act, freeing slaves who had masters in the Confederate Army. Two days later, slavery was abolished in the territories of the United States, and on July 22 President Lincoln (photo citation: 111-B-2323) presented the preliminary draft of the Emancipation Proclamation to his Cabinet. After the Union Army turned back Lee’s first invasion of the North at Antietam, MD, and the Emancipation Proclamation was subsequently announced, black recruitment was pursued in earnest. Volunteers from South Carolina, Tennessee, and Massachusetts filled the first authorized black regiments. Recruitment was slow until black leaders such as Frederick Douglass (photo citation: 200-FL-22) encouraged black men to become soldiers to ensure eventual full citizenship. (Two of Douglass’s own sons contributed to the war effort.) Volunteers began to respond, and in May 1863 the Government established the Bureau of Colored Troops to manage the burgeoning numbers of black soldiers.
By the end of the Civil War, roughly 179,000 black men (10% of the Union Army) served as soldiers in the U.S. Army and another 19,000 served in the Navy. Nearly 40,000 black soldiers died over the course of the war—30,000 of infection or disease. Black soldiers served in artillery and infantry and performed all noncombat support functions that sustain an army, as well. Black carpenters, chaplains, cooks, guards, laborers, nurses, scouts, spies, steamboat pilots, surgeons, and teamsters also contributed to the war cause. There were nearly 80 black commissioned officers. Black women, who could not formally join the Army, nonetheless served as nurses, spies, and scouts, the most famous being Harriet Tubman (photo citation: 200-HN-PIO-1), who scouted for the 2d South Carolina Volunteers.
Because of prejudice against them, black units were not used in combat as extensively as they might have been. Nevertheless, the soldiers served with distinction in a number of battles. Black infantrymen fought gallantly at Milliken’s Bend, LA; Port Hudson, LA; Petersburg, VA; and Nashville, TN. The July 1863 assault on Fort Wagner, SC, in which the 54th Regiment of Massachusetts Volunteers lost two-thirds of their officers and half of their troops, was memorably dramatized in the film Glory. By war’s end, 16 black soldiers had been awarded the Medal of Honor for their valor.
In addition to the perils of war faced by all Civil War soldiers, black soldiers faced additional problems stemming from racial prejudice. Racial discrimination was prevalent even in the North, and discriminatory practices permeated the U.S. military. Segregated units were formed with black enlisted men and typically commanded by white officers and black noncommissioned officers. The 54th Massachusetts was commanded by Robert Shaw and the 1st South Carolina by Thomas Wentworth Higginson—both white. Black soldiers were initially paid $10 per month from which $3 was automatically deducted for clothing, resulting in a net pay of $7. In contrast, white soldiers received $13 per month from which no clothing allowance was drawn. In June 1864 Congress granted equal pay to the U.S. Colored Troops and made the action retroactive. Black soldiers received the same rations and supplies. In addition, they received comparable medical care.
The black troops, however, faced greater peril than white troops when captured by the Confederate Army. In 1863 the Confederate Congress threatened to punish severely officers of black troops and to enslave black soldiers. As a result, President Lincoln issued General Order 233, threatening reprisal on Confederate prisoners of war (POWs) for any mistreatment of black troops. Although the threat generally restrained the Confederates, black captives were typically treated more harshly than white captives. In perhaps the most heinous known example of abuse, Confederate soldiers shot to death black Union soldiers captured at the Fort Pillow, TN, engagement of 1864. Confederate General Nathan B. Forrest witnessed the massacre and did nothing to stop it.
The document featured with this article is a recruiting poster directed at black men during the Civil War. It refers to efforts by the Lincoln administration to provide equal pay for black soldiers and equal protection for black POWs. The original poster is located in the Records of the Adjutant General’s Office, 1780’s–1917, Record Group 94.
Article Citation
Freeman, Elsie, Wynell Burroughs Schamel, and Jean West. “The Fight for Equal Rights: A Recruiting Poster for Black Soldiers in the Civil War.” Social Education 56, 2 (February 1992): 118-120. [Revised and updated in 1999 by Budge Weidman.]
Hmmm. A Black Confederate of the Regiment Georgia Infantry.
The Black Confederate Soldier
“The Forgotten Black Confederate Soldier”
What we have been taught and come to believe has been edited, expurgated, abridged, censored and just plain rewritten for more than 140 years.
The words of Irish-born Confederate Major General Patrick Cleburne from his January, 1864, letter which proposed the mass emancipation and enlistment of Black Southerners into the Confederate Army express profoundly accurate prophecy:
Every man should endeavor to understand the meaning of subjugation before it is too late…It means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern schoolteachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit objects for derision…The conqueror’s policy is to divide the conquered into factions and stir up animosity among them… ….It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all. Even if this were true, which we deny, slavery is not all our enemies are fighting for. It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties.
In 2000 the $37 Million movie Ride With the Devil was suppressed in distribution and offered in only 200 theaters for a limited three-day engagement despite the fact that it was directed by Oscar-winning director Ang Lee and had received many excellent reviews. It was suppressed by its distributor, USA Films, because it factually portrayed a Black Confederate guerrilla fighting with Confederate Bushwhackers in the Kansas-Missouri operations. The video release of the movie was delayed for two months to allow removal of the image of the Black Confederate from the cover art. The character was based faithfully on Free Black John Noland who rode with Quantrill as a scout and spy.
Black Southerners fought alongside white, Hispanic, Indian, Jewish and thousands of foreign-born Southerners. They fought as documented by Union sources:
Frederick Douglass, Douglass’ Monthly, IV [Sept. 1861,] pp 516 – “there are at the present moment many colored men in the Confederate Army – as real soldiers, having muskets on their shoulders, and bullets in their pockets, ready to shoot down loyal troops, and do all that soldiers may do to destroy the Federal government…There were such soldiers at Manassas and they are probably there still.”
“Negroes in the Confederate Army,” Journal of Negro History, Charles Wesle, Vol. 4, #3, [1919,] 244-245 – “Seventy free blacks enlisted in the Confederate Army in Lynchburg, Virginia. Sixteen companies of free men of color marched through Augusta, Georgia on their way to fight in Virginia.”
“The part of Adams’ Brigade that the 42nd Indiana was facing were the ‘Louisiana Tigers.’ This name was given to Colonel Gibson’s 13th Louisiana Infantry, which included five companies of ‘Avegno Zouaves’ who still were wearing their once dashing traditional blue jackets, red caps and red baggy trousers. These five Zouaves companies were made up of Irish, Dutch, Negroes, Spaniards, Mexicans, and Italians.” – Noe, Kenneth W., Perryville: This Grand Havoc of Battle. The University of Kentucky Press, Lexington, KY, 2001. [page 270]
From James G. Bates’ letter to his father reprinted in the 1 May 1863 “Winchester [Indiana] Journal” [the 13th IVI [“Hoosier Regiment”] was involved in operations around the Suffolk, Virginia area in April-May 1863 ] – “I can assure you [Father,] of a certainty, that the rebels have negro soldiers in their army. One of their best sharp shooters, and the boldest of them all here is a negro. He dug himself a rifle pit last night [16 April 1863] just across the river and has been annoying our pickets opposite him very much to-day. You can see him plain enough with the naked eye, occasionally, to make sure that he is a “wooly-head,” and with a spy-glass there is no mistaking him.”
The 85th Indiana Volunteer Infantry reported to the Indianapolis Daily Evening Gazette that on 5 March 1863: “During the fight the [artillery] battery in charge of the 85th Indiana [Volunteer Infantry] was attacked by two rebel negro regiments.
After the action at Missionary Ridge, Commissary Sergeant William F. Ruby forwarded a casualty list written in camp at Ringgold, Georgia about 29 November 1863, to William S. Lingle for publication. Ruby’s letter was partially reprinted in the Lafayette Daily Courier for 8 December 1863: “Ruby says among the rebel dead on the [Missionary] Ridge he saw a number of negroes in the Confederate uniform.”
Federal Official Records, Series I, Vol XVI Part I, pg. 805: “There were also quite a number of negroes attached to the Texas and Georgia troops, who were armed and equipped, and took part in the several engagements with my forces during the day.”
Federal Official Records Series 1, Volume 15, Part 1, Pages 137-138: “Pickets were thrown out that night, and Captain Hennessy, Company E, of the Ninth Connecticut, having been sent out with his company, captured a colored rebel scout, well mounted, who had been sent out to watch our movements.”
Federal Official Records, Series I, Vol. XLIX, Part II, pg. 253 – April 6, 1865: “The rebels [Forrest] are recruiting negro troops at Enterprise, Miss., and the negroes are all enrolled in the State.”
Federal Official Records, Series I, Vol. XIV, pg. 24, second paragraph – “It is also difficult to state the force of the enemy, but it could not have been less than from 600 to 800. There were six companies of mounted riflemen, besides infantry, among which were a considerable number of colored men.” – referring to Confederate forces opposing him at Pocotaligo, SC., Colonel B. C. Christ, 50th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry, official report of May 30, 1862
“Sargt said war is close to being over. saw several negros fighting for those rebels.” – From the diary of James Miles, 185th N.Y.V.I., entry dated January 8, 1865
Black Southerners also demonstrated loyalties based not on ownership, subservience or fear. The Confederate Burial Mound for Camp Morton, Indiana, at Indianapolis, Indiana, has bronze tablets which list the nearly 1200 Confederates who died at that camp. Among those names are 26 Black Southerners, seven Hispanic Southerners and six Indiaan Southerners.
At a time when those Black Southerners could have walked into the Camp Commander’s office, taken a short oath and signed their name to walk out the gates free men obliged to no one they chose instead to stay even unto death. Your understanding of that choice is likely nonexistent.
Union soldiers robbed, raped and murdered Free Black and slave Southerners they had come to “emancipate.” Union “recruiters” hunted, kidnapped and tortured Black Southerners to compel them to serve in the Union Army. At the Battle of the Crater white Union soldiers bayoneted retreating Black Union soldiers and the 54th Massachusetts was intentionally fired upon by Union Maine troops while assaulting Battery Wagner. The Federal Official Records and memoirs of the USCT document all of these war crimes.
Since the Civil War the United States flag has flown over a country that has continued attempted genocide against its Native Peoples with the able help of Black “Buffalo Soldiers,” condoned the slavery of Orientals in California well into the 1880s, fought wars to maintain dominance over countries whose people were not white, and imprisoned its own citizens because of the color of their skin as they did with the Japanese-Americans in California from 1941-1945.
It is time that the misrepresentation which has come to be accepted as “history” is restored to its full measure and the positive and negative aspects of all parties exposed for the consideration of all Americans.
The Patriotist–LG
posted by PoP The Southern American at 4:00 PM
Everything yous said is a lie. Get your facts straight before you go shooting off at the mouth.
I shall tell to you a personal story. When I was visiting a large, outdoor living history museum in Virginia about five years ago [a museum that shall remain nameless and had nothing to do with the Civil War], I overheard one of the museum’s staff interrupt a conversation between a museum interpreter and a visitor standing adjacent to me. The staff member interrupted the interpreter to say that the Confederates had an integrated military, with black soldiers fighting right next to white ones, and that the Confederates were therefore less prejudiced than the Union. After an uncomfortable silence, the interpreter resumed his previous conversation.
To keep from not laughing at the fool, I put to my hand over my mouth. Awkward, to say the least.
The comment made by this staff member was not only inappropriate to the museum’s focus and setting, but also seemed like a blatant falsehood. But could it possibly be true that blacks and whites fought together in Confederate units? To answer that question, technically no. There were of course no integrated units in the South.
However, much to my surprise, there may have actually been a few units of black troops that organized for the Confederates. A Harvard professor had recently done research on just this subject, and estimates that there may have been a bit over 3,000 black soldiers formed on the Confederate side
. Now before you get too excited, keep in mind that said professor also points out that many of these black soldiers were not accepted by the Confederate government and were not issued firearms: still more of these soldiers were coerced into joining the military, and others joined to escape miserable poverty.
A Professor Carol Sheriff of the College of William and Mary reinforces the notion that any blacks who fought did so somewhat involuntarily, by clarifying that some black body-servants may have taken up arms in the heat of battle to defend their masters and themselves, and even then they were sometimes forced to do so. She also makes the point that arming blacks or allowing them to fight in the military was illegal in the Confederacy. This makes it extremely difficult to claim that the Confederates used black troops, because refusing to allow them to fight and forcing them to join in the first place quashes the notion that they were soldiers.
In any case, they were present in such minuscule numbers that it’s difficult to validate their presence – these “soldiers” only represented about one half of one percent of the Confederate military strength.
The greatest single example of black Confederate soldiers – the Louisiana Native Guards, composed of black and mixed-race men from the New Orleans area – was not accepted by the Confederate military despite their wish to fight for the south when the war broke out. As a result, when the Union took New Orleans in spring of 1862, the Louisiana Native Guards joined the Union when Major General Benjamin Franklin Butler called for reinforcements.
On a side note, over 4,000 black and mixed-race men joined the Union army in New Orleans that spring, which outnumbers those that may have joined the Confederacy over the course of the entire war.
Revise anything else you like…..I just too smart for an fool like yourself to believe the bull crap the unless idiots blow up your backside.
The man! The myth! The legend!….the undeterred, and unflappable, Eric Rummerstrom, everybody!
“Not accepted by Confederate military.” This is completely gratuitous opinion. Just who is this anachronistic professor speaking on behalf of. Is there a source or a reference? This is the type of liberal elitist education that goes on at William and Mary. Gratuitous assertions that have no reference are indicative of extreme bias, so much bias, in fact, that no reference is provided to back up the argument! You should know this! The last post on this thread was full of reference assertions and you answer it referencing a story about an unknown guy at a Civil War museum? And that’s supposed to be a legitimately persuasive argument?
What Wayne, the baccalaureate graduate in history, who works as a MAIL MAN (that degree did him a lot of good), is doing, is just badgering us. He calls names, he rants about how people LOOK, but all he can do is call them liars when he doesn’t even look up the facts. I’d say we’ve spent enough time giving him what he wants- validating his pathetic existence.
David, it’s not a history question anymore, it’s a political question. Deconstructionists and revisionists have launched an attack on a symbol, actually the only symbol in the history of the United States, that threatens the existence of the federal government. That’s the bottom line. And, presenting it as racist (a term no one wants to be called in the 21st Century) is the best way to attack that symbol. In fact, presenting the history of those who fought against the federal government as primarily racist is a straw man argument against probably 98% of those who fought the war with a rifle instead of a pen or an argument before a legislative body. Perhaps many politicians voted to secede because their financial interests depended on slavery, but the 98% of the southern population were fighting for something else, and that something else was the right of sovereign states to rule themselves pursuant to the anti-federalist view of the Constitution and especially the 10th Amendment (which Thomas Jefferson said was the heart and soul of the Constitution). Had Thomas Jefferson been alive during the Civil War, he would most certainly have supported the Confederacy, and not for so simple minded a notion as slavery, but for the heart and soul of the Constitution.
This is what the “slavery crowd” ignores. It’s much easier to ignore the cancer and give all one’s attention to the headache. It’s much easier to just cry “racism!” and ignore the Constitutional and governance crisis in this country.
Preaching to the choir, Ruston!
I hired in as a letter carrier. I spent the majority of my career as counsel to the National Association of Letter Carriers in various positions. Just completed 30 years. I did a little post graduate work at Northlake. There is more to me that scratches the surface than what you purview on a Facebook page, Mr. Nosy.
Walking is good exercise, and hard work. From the [round] shape you’re in, you would have never made the cut.
Hahahahahahaha! A fucking mailman! It’s hard for morons to find jobs within their degree when they have such a low IQ and refuse to accept the truth or listen to anyone different. People don’t like know it all assholes. Guess that’s why you’re on here berating people. Does it make your teeny weeny feel bigger? Does it make you feel better about yourself? Truly pathetic.
Wayne is a blooming moron! I am part Native American{Cherokee} and I have ancestors and stories handed down by my relatives of Confederate troops that were of mixed races, including the Cherokee and other Native American tribes as well as BLACKS! This guy is nothing but a troll that has pouted so many inaccuracies it isn’t even nowhere near funny. He is given FACTS with REFERENCES that SUPPORT THESE FACTS, yet, he refuses to read or look at those. And for the record, my wife is also related to the former Confederate General Robert E. Lee and as stated, Lee DID NOT believe in slavery, he inherited some from someone, but freed them immediately, he refused to keep slaves or anyone in bondage. Something that Wayne just can’t not comprehend, but when you have a brain that’s smaller than a flea’s turd, it’s about all you can expect from people like him. No matter how many TRUE ACCURATE FACTS are stated, these brain dead morons will refute it with illogical diatribe and other asinine comments that bear NO TRUTH and HAVE NO FACTUAL REFERENCES to BACK THEIR CLAIMS! Sure glad there’s folks like David and others here that KNOW and have READ AND SEEN THE TRUTH and are putting out here for others to see and read. Even if it only changes ONE persons mind to see the real truth, it’s done the job that was intended. Sadly, some will NEVER see it because they are so BRAINWASHED {hence why they’re now a brain Dead Moron} they will never see anything but the foul odor and inaccurate information that they have been plugged into. If they could just unplug from their brain washing, they may actually finally see the real truth, not the pre-fabrications that so many push out as the truth, that truly IS NOT! Again, thanks to David and Erik for giving folks REAL FACTS, REFERENCES TO THOSE FACTS and for telling it like it SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, Not how it is being taught! So sad our Colleges and Universities are setting these bad examples of perpetrating the lies and not the real truth of all this.
That statement about mass emancipation and enlistment of blacks wrecked his career and any chance of becoming a major general.
Now I know why you SAY you have a BA in History from a COLLEGE (not a university), then what do you do for a living? You’re a mailman! The pieces are falling into place! I DARE you to google up H. K. Edgerton, whose great grandfather was a sergeant in the CONFEDERATE ARTILLERY. Edgerton was keynote speaker at the 2012 Sons of Confederate Veterans reunion in Vicksburg, MS. BTW, google up Byron Thomas, or even “BLACK SOUTH CAROLINA UNIVERSITY STUDENT CONFEDERATE FLAG”, and you’ll find ANOTHER black Confederate descendant, who also claims his FREE ancestor VOLUNTEERED to fight for the Confederacy.
I see you had to stoop to insulting my 15-YEAR-OLD pic. After it was taken, I lost 186 pounds. But, since you wanted to go there, what’s YOUR excuse on your CURRENT PIC ON FACEBOOK? I’ll guarantee you, I weigh less than you do! I’d be glad to compare CURRENT pics, lardo!
David, maybe your body weighs less than Wayne’s but your brain seriously outweighs his.
Thanks again!
And the thing is, it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I read some of his previous posts and what a surprise! He’s an angry man, excuse me, mailman. While being a Postal Service Worker is an honorable profession, he tries to come off as a college professor, which he is not. Good day sir!
Just so long as he doesn’t go POSTAL on us!
Read anything about fort Sumter before?
You don’t want to know the truth because it doesn’t square with your beliefs. That is called cognitive dissonance. Just because you majored in history does not mean you learned it well. It is sad that you insist on promoting lies and continuing to add to the division in our country.
Graduated Magna Cum Laude. I never was that good at algebra for some reason.
Hahahahshahsha bullshit. You’re a lying little shit just like your fellow liberals and your liberal president. If you had a degree you would know the truth. It’s a known fact liberals lie. Look no further than Obama and Hilary. It’s part of your indoctrination. Saul Alinsky absolves you of the sin of lying, doesn’t he? The ends justifies the means. Yep, we know what you dumb fucks are all about. Hatred and intolerance. You want to dictate what the rest of us do, how we live and what we believe in. You think you are better than the rest of us. It would be laughable if you weren’t so pathetic
I would venture to say the flying a Confederate flag contributes the most to division in our country. It is the flag of secession, slavery, and segregationists. There is no love or equality in it.
It’s also free speech. I should be able to fly whatever flag I want.the confederate flag is seen your way only be kook aid drinking idiots like you. It’s history. Why are you assholes so intent on erasing our history. You’re just jealous at how well we are doing down here. We don’t need you assholes.
Nobody wants to erase history. We just don’t want a repeat of the same stupid history that “good ole’ boys” like yo’self try to tell in some offshoot revised version.
You sound much like you need an asshole. Sh*t is starting to run out of your ears now.
The democrats have had the Nigger in slavery, for 40-50 years. History has already repeated itself. The Negro is more in slaved today than they were then.
Did you get that off back of a pamphlet at you last KKK meeting?
You’re so fucking witty. And juvenile. What’s it to you if I want to fly a confederate flag. Mind you, I’ve never owned one in spite of the fact that my family came to SC in 1790 and owned a rice plantation. The gay flag is ok, the ISIS flag is ok but a confederate battle flag is not? Bullshit. It is my first amendment right to fly that flag if I so choose. That’s the difference between asshole liberals like you and conservatives like myself. You want to force people to believe what you believe. You want to FORCE people to change their lives because of YOUR ideology whether we agree with it or not. That’s not freedom. I don’t condemn your right to fly whatever flag you wish. You don’t want a free country . You want to change and force people into your beliefs. That’s not America. If you condemn the confederate flag you must also condemn the American flag. We were a slave nation before the war. And look at what our American flag did to native Americans. They spilled a lot of blood. Why are you not calling for that flag to be taken down? It’s because you are the most hypocritical people out there. You’re self centered, self absorbed, intolerant hypocrites who think your way is the only way and you know so much better how I should run my life. You’re a liar and a complete ass. You think you’re smart which makes it all the more pathetic that you think you are smart and witty. You’re neither.
Back the truck up a few dings there for a second Sling Blade! I told you what that flag symbolizes, and why it it shouldn’t fly over any government installation, Numb Nuts!
Personally, I don’t care if you put it on a pole, shove the pole up your ass, and run around naked that way!
And you are wrong in what it symbolizes, plain and simple. You have no earthly idea what it symbolizes to me and most born and bred southerners. You are so closed minded that you can’t fathom that your view could be wrong. The KKK hijacked the flag, but it in no way symbolizes slavery. It was any kong battle flag. It never flew over the Confederacy. To is the flag means perservence, it symbolizes the strength southerners found within them to overcome everything assholes like you threw at them. People like you are intolerant, self absorbed douches who get their rocks off belittling and arguing with conservatives. Truth is people like you are courageous behind a keyboard, but too big a pussy to say things to someone’s face. You are a minority’s. True Americans will win in the end. True Americans stand for something. We aren’t sniveling little sissy boys who want the government to control everything we do.
If the flag never flew over the Confederacy, why do you insist that it fly over a state capital? People like you make the Southern part of the USA the shit stain in America’s underwear.
BTW ~ I’m not arguing with you. I’m telling you why I’m right!
You just proved my point that you’re an arrogant asshole. I never said it had to fly over the statehouse. I’m a shit stain? Screw you. I’m proud of my Southern heritage and I have every right to be. It just pisses you people off that we refuse to be manipulated by jerks like you. Look at the comments. I believe you’re out numbered. I’m not a racist, nor have I ever been one. Before it was popular my great grandfather adopted a disabled black boy when his mother died. When I was young Shorty was in his 40’s but he had the mind of an eight year old. We brought him coloring books and crayons every time we went to the farm because that was his favorite thing. I spent many hours as a child coloring with Shorty. Look at what happened in my home state. After the Charleston shooting we didn’t riot, we didn’t look or burn anything. We came together, black and white. That hasn’t happened in the cities run by your liberal idols. We treat each other with respect here. And that pisses you off that we don’t fall into your mold, your racist view that all southerners hate blacks or that we want to own slaves again. Neither is true, even with the flag. White Southern Christians seem to be the only group that can’t celebrate our heritage which is more than owning slaves. You love to throw the slavery of 150 years ago, but what are you doing about the slavery that still exists today. What have you done about the Radical Muslims who throw gay people off of buildings because they are gay? You guys love to show how non racist you are but nothing could be further from the truth. You are a racist – you hate a group of people for who we are. But you keep living up there on your high horse you self righteous, hypocritical, arrogant backward SOB. Things have a way of falling apart for people who hate and you’re nothing more than a hater. It must suck to have such an ill disposition. I could almost feel sorry for you, but this shit stain has a hard time feeling sympathetic toward fakers and haters like you. You’ll get what’s coming to you. You’ll pay for being a racist pig who lacks respect for anyone who doesn’t tow the liberal line. You are completely wrong and backwards in your thinking. I refuse to waste another moment on someone as shitty as you are.
Really? It must be horrible living like a complete moron. The flag didn’t fly over Ferguson or Baltimore, but blacks chose to riot and destroy their own neighborhoods. In fact when tragedy struck SC Charleston residents came together in harmony- the same way we live today. Our president has caused more division that the confederate flag. I certainly hope you didn’t procreate. I would hate to see a child burdened with your racist intolerant moronic DNA.
Really Wayne, you just showed your true ass on that one. 3,000 black Confederate Cavalrymen fought in the Stonewall Jackson Brigade by itself, not even mentioning the rest of the CSA. They participated in the Shenandoah Campaign in the early part of the war before Jackson was killed at Chancellorsville and way before Gettysburg. Change the truth? Hell, we’ve got pictures of them! And the mention of 3,000 of them comes from a union officer’s report! Hell, in the 1860 US Census there are 800 freed blacks in New Orleans that owned slaves themselves! But don’t take my word for it, look it up. But don’t look it up unless you are open to changing your mind about a lot of things! That’s the problem with research and study: it makes the world look a lot different than you originally assumed it.
Because the laws of the southern states forbid the manumission of slaves, the free blacks had to still own their “slaves” after they worked to buy their freedom. Such ignorance! It was against the law in most southern states to arm free blacks or slaves. One politician even stated that if blacks made good soldiers, then the racial subjugation the Confederates were fighting for was wrong.
OMG you are stupid. Blacks did volunteer for their freedom in the civil war and plus volunteered in many other wars. BA in history my ass.
Most of them volunteered for the Union Army. 100-1 ratio went to the Union. The laws of the Southern states tried to keep slaves illiterate and stupid, but it only worked on the ones who went Confederate.
You are misguided young man
He’s a stupid intolerant arrogant young man
Oh yes they did Moron. It just eats you people up that some southerners treated their slaves like family. When you Yankees forced slaves off the plantation you gave them nowhere to go. They wandered the South with no shelter and no food.you Yankees took everything not nailed down, burned our crops and killed our livestock. I have silver my family buried on the back yard because they had nothing left. Many slaves ended up back at the plantations and even tho we couldn’t afford it Southerners gave them land, shelter and paid them to work on the farm.
Many blacks owned slaves also. The ships that brought slaves here were Yankee built and Yankee financed and Yankee sailed. The North made a killing selling slaves. The American flag flew over s slave nation. Slavery was legal and Many Northerners owned slaves. That must eat you up. The KKK used the American flag as well as the confederate flag. You guys just can’t stand that the South rose out of the ashes Yankees left us with and we became the new south. Better than the North. Look no further than Charleston SC.the pastor that was killed was pro flag. You guys rioted and looted your own cities. What did Charleston do? They came together black and white. That’s who we are. That’s what bugs you guys. We are strong and independent. You’re just a slave to your government. How many people retire and move north?
Wow! While I am shocked I must say I am not surprised. Libtards usually resort to name calling when they run out of facts, which usually does not take very long. Temper, temper! You are going to have an aneurism.
For someone with a (ahem) college degree in history, you don’t seem to have learned enough. There are black men who belong to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, and black women who belong to the United Daughters of the Confederacy, because they descend from black people who volunteered to fight for the Confederacy. There were also free black men who fought for the Confederacy (no, they were not slaveowners either, although history records that many free blacks did own slaves). The famous Siamese twins, Chang and Eng Bunker, were also supporters of the Confederacy. See how much you missed in history class, young fella? 🙂
Key word was volunteered……….they never fought along side Confederate troops as they were never accepted into the ranks.
Actually….they were accepted more readily than blacks were accepted in the Union Army. You didn’t know that, now did you? Jews were also accepted much more easily in the South than in the North, where antisemitsm was rampant.
Wow! I think you may have gave him an education he can talk about! Mabe he PD attention this time! Good job ! Thanks
Thanks, but I doubt it. The kool-aid drinkers are rarely transformed by facts.
He didn’t pay attention. Liberals are the worst people on earth. They are selfish, arrogant self absorbed, self righteous, hypocritical pieces of excrement who are completely intolerant of anyone else’s feelings or rights or opinions. If you don’t believe exactly as they do they get their pussy little panties in a wad and stomp their little feet like a 3 year old. This particular asshole just called me and my southern history a shit stain. That makes him a hater of a group of people. Makes him a racist too.
Didn’t you know? Racism and bigotry is verboten against any group BUT white, male, Christian Southerners? Growing up here in the North I have heard more than my fair share of the inbred Jed jokes, the jokes about Southern accents, Southern food, Southern fat people (as if we Yankees don’t have a lot of fat people too!)
Thank you AJ. My name is Robin Henderson Aristides. Look me up on fb. Sounds like you have an interesting story to tell.
Boom! Took that boy to school and back!!
Thanks David. Loved reading your dissertation above and so happy I’m not the only one pointing this out to folks. But a history professor told me when I was an undergraduate at The Citadel: “Simple minds like simple solutions.” In all my time exhausting myself with diatribes quite similar to what you wrote above I have learned how true that professor’s words actually are. Just finished Masters number two and graduate degree number three at UVA, but the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences there has become simple minded as well. But keep preaching brother. Someone’s bound to actually pay attention beyond the simple solution eventually and know that I’m with you!
Thanks!
I have been preaching against this poser in chief since before he was elected the first time. He is transparent to me because in most of his speeches he was making outrageous promises. Promises that he could not ever legally keep. Legally being the key word, he tried to do anyway. He is a usurper and an evil incarnate man. He made promises that he would change this law and that law, all the while knowing that even as President, he does not make the laws. That is the job of the House. Obama never heard of the separation of powers evidently. Well, too hot here for an extended rant. Thank you sir for your point of view, it is well appreciated.
Amen David !
Well done Sir! Thank you for your time and input!
Hundreds in the secesh army. Hundreds of thousands in the Union army. Can you see the difference. The black folks knew who was fighting for them, and who was against them.
secesh? That isn’t even a word. BTW, I noted that a UNION general reported seeing THOUSANDS of black Confederate soldiers while watching Confederate troop movements of a couple of regiments. He also noted that they were dressed in the same uniforms as their white counterparts, similarly armed, unlike the 69th New York of “Glory” fame, which was a segregated unit.
As for who was for and who was against, why don’t you try asking the black members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans? Speaking of “against them”, Anthony Hervey, a black SCV member, had just attended a pro-Confederate flag rally in Alabama and was on his way home with his wife. His car was rammed and run off the road by anti-Confederate battle flag protestors. He was killed and his wife seriously injured. Tell me how much “for” the blacks these people are!
Then why did you MORONS in the North REFUSE to allow blacks INTO THE NORTH after the war? Answer that one know~it~all but truly KNOWS NOTHING! Blacks were NOT welcome in the North and were told to stay out. Many after the war, like one had stated, moved into the South because of the MISTREATMENT the NORTH was doing to them. You’re about as bright as a burned out miniature Christmas bulb!
David, if memory serves me, New Jersey still had slaves until the Emancipation Proclamation.
Grant had slaves and did not free them until after the war. Lee, however inherited his slaves, but he did not believe in slavery and gave his their freedom before the war. We had a right to secede, but Lincoln invaded the south. Not the other way around.
I’m not sure. I just knew for a fact that Maryland and Delaware were Union slave states. I didn’t see anything about New Jersey, but thanks for letting me know, so I can research it.